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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 06-07-2015 08:45
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AntiMaster написал:
Ну, тогда давай наливай! 
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 06-07-2015 08:49
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Hello Chess Friends,
A long awaited SCCT Book Tournament is coming...!!
There are many comments over...and let's see who will be the next SCCT Champion ?)
So I am pleased to announce that very soon I plan to organize a new book tour!
• The competition is planning to be started around: 10 August 2015
• The book registrations are planning between: 05-09 August 2015
The registered participants have choice to prefer 3 chess engines:
Komodo 9.01
Stockfish 040715
Sugar 5.4
Note also that there is a possibility to be used newer version/s
For more details about SCCT Book Championship V:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1900
Best Wishes,
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 08-07-2015 18:45
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I've just updated the champions/participants list
And once more I'd like to say:
Many thanks for all of your interest and trust with participating in SCCT
I hope to see all of you again (plus new Incomers) in the next book tours !)
For more details:
http://www.sedatc...age_id=393
Best,
Sedat |
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 19-07-2015 16:20
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Hello there,
SCCT – Tactical Test Suite's Current Results:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1956
Note also that I plan to continue working over the current tactical test suite
And probably later I will test the top chess engines with 30 sec per position
Have fun,
Sedat |
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| Zunkor |
Опубликовано 20-07-2015 16:02
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Где можно посмотреть позиции Tactical Test Suite's? |
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 21-07-2015 15:21
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Zunkor написал:
Где можно посмотреть позиции Tactical Test Suite's?
K sojaleniu oni v dannam momente v lichnom, no v kontse turnira ya ih viystavlyu
Udachi,
Sedat
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 21-07-2015 15:22
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Hello Chess Friends,
Here are the latest TTS's results in 30 sec per move:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1975
You can view 'Comprehensive Output in Report file':
http://www.sedatc..._30sec.txt
Note: Very soon I plan to test some of the top engines in 300 sec (5 min) per move
*I will use the same tactical test suite, but with unsolved positions in 30 sec/move
Best Wishes,
Sedat
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 22-07-2015 18:17
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Update:
Many engines are included an now the ranking has 110 participants !)
Note: As far as possible I am interested to test +2500 Elo and above
Top 3 (5 min/move):
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1993
Note also that the above Top 3 standings at 5min/move is same as 3 sec/move
All Versions (3 sec/move):
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1956
Top 20 (3 sec/move):
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=2015
BTW,
Unfortunately the latest Cheng release 4.39 could not perform better...
Strange and just another fiasco:
Cheng4 0.38 x64 : 179
Cheng 4.39 x64 : 164
Anoher note is that,
The older one, Pepito 1.59 as UCI (Intel) performed as expected...
But as we see, the latest JA version as WB perfomed even worse:
Pepito 1.59 UCI : 88
Pepito 1.59.2 Wb JA : 56
Greetings,
Sedat |
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 23-07-2015 20:34
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Dear Chess Friends,
I've just tested Ginkgo (by Frank Schneider), which is "private" so far
Note: This engine participated recently in WCCC and WCSC (Leiden/Netherlands)
And here are the latest standings with Ginkgo 1.0e x64:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1956
Best,
Sedat |
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 24-07-2015 14:10
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Hello again )
Here is one strategy test competition more, which I run approx. 2 weeks ago:
Conditions:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Hash: 128, Threads: 1, time/pos: 12 Seconds
Test duration (per engine): 24 Minutes
Strategic Test Suite Results: Higher is Better
The Ranking is generated by STS Rating v3
 КодEngine Score
Houdini 4 x64 64/120
Komodo 9.01 x64 63/120
Stockfish 090715 x64 59/120
SugaR v5.4 x64 57/120
*Note that I tested the chess engines with 120 positions (based on STS1-STS15_LAN.epd)
Another note is that, I preferred the unsolved positions in 1 sec/move by the above engine versions
In shortly: No any of the used positions were solved in 1 sec/move by the current tested engines
And this should be known too,
My used 300 positions in 5 sec per move:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1742
I preferred the unsolved positions in 3 sec/move by Rybka 4.1 x64
Probably this is the reason about why Houdini 4 could not win at 5 sec/move, where Sugar's performance was great...
Because almost all of us know that Houdini is based mainly on IPPO (Rybka)
For example,(on my private testings) Rybka 4.1 x64 at 5 sec/move managed to get just 40 points
It seems, extra adding 2 seconds (from 3 to 5), Rybka scored better than zero )
But here, (even with Rybka's weakness) H4 managed to win at 3 min per move:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1849
Of course here with all 1500 positions, Houdini is again Number ONE:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1761
Yes...I'd just decided to share my thoughts....
Best,
Sedat |
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 29-07-2015 11:41
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Last Updates:
Код Engine : Points
Stockfish 6 x64 : 310
Stockfish 5 x64 : 287
Stockfish 6 w32 : 286
Houdini 1.03a x64 : 256
Protector 1.8.0 x64 : 243
Houdini 1.03a w32 : 242
Rybka 3 x64 : 215
Rybka 2.3.2a x64 : 162
Cerebro 3.03d w32 : 126
Trace 1.37a w32 : 109
Delphil 3.1 x64 : 99
GLC 3.034 w32 : 96
King of Kings 2.56 w32 : 96
Leila 0.53h w32 : 93
Kiwi 0.6d JA x64 : 91
Sage 3.53 w32 : 91
Dorky 4.3 x64 : 89
Counter 1.2 w32 : 87
Genius 7 w32 : 85
Dragon 4.6 w32 : 83
Patzer 3.80 w32 : 82
Bringer 1.9 w32 : 82
Abrok 6.0 w32 : 81
Resp 0.19 JA x64 : 80
Nejmet 3.07a w32 : 79
Comet B68 w32 : 79
Myrddin 0.86 JA x64 : 78
Quark 2.35 w32 : 73
Capture R1 w32 : 72
Diablo 0.51 JA x64 : 71
LambChop 10.99 w32 : 71
Plisk 0.2.7d x64 : 71
Fridolin v2.00 x64 : 69
Amy 0.87b w32 : 64
Uralochka 1.1b w32 : 62
Notes:
- Both Top engines (Stockfish 6 and Houdini 4) are now the current Leaders !
* Very interesting...SF 6 performed better than the latest new SF versions
- Protector 1.8.0 x64 and Stockfish 5 x64 are tested via Polyglot adapter !)
* Due to both chess engines have same analyze bug under Arena 2.01 GUI
* Note also that Stockfish 6 and later SF versions don't have this bug
- Some buggy Winboard chess engines are tested via Wb2Uci adapter too
- Arena 2.01 GUI seems to be the more stabil for analysis (comparing with other Arena versions)
- A few older versions of Rybka, Komodo, Stockfish and Houdini are tested
* Now you can compare the points difference between older... 64-bit vs 32-bit
- I am impressed also by Cerebro 3.03d's performance: 126 tactical points !
* Cerebro is much weaker in Elo points than many ones, but in tactics: very good...!
- Genius 7 is tested on Virtual operating system (on Windows XP Pro 32-bit)
- More chess engines are coming soon !
All Versions:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1956
Top 20:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=2015
Kind Regards,
Sedat |
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 30-07-2015 18:13
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New Update:
Код Engine : Points
Houdini 4 Tactical x64 : 363
Gaia 3.5 x64 : 110
Muse 0.899b w32 : 95
KnightDreamer w32 3.3 : 89
Capivara LK009b02c x64 : 88
Rodin 7 w32 : 87
Pupsi2 0.09 w32 : 87
OliThink 5.3.0 x64 : 86
JikChess 0.01 x64 : 86
SpiderChess 070603 w32 : 85
Sungorus 1.4 JA x64 : 83
RomiChess P3L x64 : 83
Simplex 098 JA x64 : 83
LittleThought 1.052 x64 : 80
CuckooChess 1.12 x64 : 79
Matacz 1.4 w32 : 79
Ges 1.36 w32 : 79
Anechka 008 w32 : 78
Typhoon 1.00-358 w32 : 77
CyberPagno 2.2 w32 : 76
Terra 3.4 w32 : 73
Ares 1.005 x64 : 73
Scidlet 3.61b2 JA x64 : 71
Ayito 0.2.994 w32 : 71
Chezzz 1.0.3 w32 : 71
TJchess 1.1 x64 : 69
Zeus 1.29 w32 : 68
Buzz 008 w32 : 68
Ant 2006f w32 : 68
Beowulf 2.4a w32 : 67
Queen 4.02 w32 : 66
Horizon 4.4 w32 : 66
Arion 1.7 w32 : 66
Snitch 1.6.2 w32 : 64
Averno 0.81 w32 : 60
Homer 2.01 w32 : 60
Aice 0.99.2 w32 : 60
Ifrit m1.8 x64 : 59
EveAnn 1.70 w32 : 55
Alex 2.14a x64 : 55
Some Details:
- I am very very impressed, an incredible performance by Houdini 4 Tactical x64
- Houdini 4 Tactical leads with more than 50 points over Stockfish, Komodo etc...
* Note: This time, Houdini 4 x64 is tested with Tactical Mode ON
- Sad and strange that a few chess engines do not support Analyze mode
* For example: Joker 1.1.14 (by HGM) belongs to those buggy engines
* Another interesting example: even Rebel 6 (1994) supports Analyze mode
- And I hope the next new releases will be more stable, better in tactics...
All Versions:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1956
Top 20:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=2015
Best Regards,
Sedat
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 31-07-2015 15:08
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Update - 31.07.2015:
Код Engine : Points
Stockfish 150715bt x64 : 303
SugaR v5.4b x64 : 303
StockfishTS 120715 x64 : 292
Hannibal 1.4b x64 : 161
Arasan 18 x64 : 154
Gothmog 10b10 w32 : 123
Cyclone xTreme w32 : 94
Adam 3.3 w32 : 91
FireFly 2.70 x64 : 82
BBChess 1.3 x64 : 78
Orion 02 w32 : 77
GreKo 12.8a WB w32 : 78
GreKo 12.8a UCI w32 : 72
AliChess 4.25 w32 : 70
Caligula 0.7b w32 : 61
Esc 1.16 CIPS w32 : 58
Chesser 2 w32 : 51
Some Notes:
- The tactical performance of the tested new Top 3 engines(SF derivatives) are good...
* But however, their points are not enough to catch/pass Houdini 4 Tactical x64
* Houdini 4 is almost 3 years old chess engine and still as number ONE in tactics!!
- The older version of Hannibal 1.4b x64 is tested too: 161 tactical points
* For example, the latest release (Hannibal 1.5 x64) managed to get much less: 131
- Not bad performance by Adam 3.3, as we know its Elo performance is not too high...
- What a pitty that Chesser 2 is ranked as last place (tested with 4MB hashtable)
* Chesser's author is Syed Fahad, and as far as I know he is just 14 years old
* I hope the next Chesser release will be better and to be able to use larger hastables
- GreKo 12.8a version is tested as WB and UCI (WB performed slightly better than UCI)
- The latest Arasan 18's performance is good: 21 points better than Arasan 17.5
* Congrats to Jon Dart and to all rest programmers, who are able to improve their engines!
Note also that,
I like very much the current tactical testing method - fast, reliable...
And I hope you like it too... !)
In other words,
My testing is not ideal, but quite good indicator of which are the best engines in tactics!
As I mentioned before,
I see my TTs testing to be similar as IQs testing !)
For examples,
We have two great chess players, who are one of the highest IQs in History:
Garry Kasparov – IQ 194
Judit Polgar – IQ 170
And we should not forget to mention that,
Houdini's author created for all chess lovers a really very successful engine !
Of course, Komodo/Rybka/Stockfish and plus many others belong to this group !
All Versions:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1956
Top 20:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=2015
*Note: Top 20's standing remains as previous update !
Best Wishes,
Sedat |
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 01-08-2015 19:27
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Update - 01.08.2015:
Код Engine : Points
Stockfish 160715 x64 : 306
Stockfish 150715bt x64 : 303
Houdini 2.0c x64 : 299
SF 130715MZ x64 : 296
Houdini 2.0c Kayra2 x64 : 294
Stockfish 300715 x64 : 292
StockfishTS 120715 x64 : 292
Stockfish 090715 x64 : 291
SugaR v5.4 x64 : 289
Bright 0.5c x64 : 142
T.Logic 20100131x x64 : 130
Pedone 1.2 x64 : 128
Ktulu 8 w32 : 109
Gibbon 2.69a x64 : 84
ZChess 2.22 w32 : 83
Feuerstein 0.461 w32 : 75
Gromit v3.82 w32 : 72
Xpdnt 091007 JA w32 : 70
PostModernist 1016 w32 : 70
ChessKISS 1.7c w32 : 68
EnginMax 5.24 x64 : 61
Gerbil 02 JA x64 : 61
Kurt 0.922b JA x64 : 60
Smash 1.0.3a w32 : 59
Warrior 1.03 w32 : 53
Taktix 2.23x w32 : 53
Vice 1.1 w32 : 51
Tscp 1.81 JA w32 : 47
Alarm 0.93.1 w32 : 36
More Details:
- The results of the experimental SF versions are not so stable, for example: Stockfish 300715
* So since today, only the strongest SF version (per author) will be published on my official site
* But however, I plan to publish each SF testing result over my favorite Computerchess forums
* Otherwise, the current TTS ranking will be look like: I am Stockfish beta tester !)
- Surprisingly, Houdini 2.0c Kayra2 x64 performed 5 points worse than Houdini 2.0c x64 default
* For example, in SCCT tours: Houdini 2.0c Kayra2 performed approx 20-30 Elo better than default
* Note: For more reliable ranking: Houdini 2.0c and Kayra2 engine versions are tested twice too
* And after each repeating the same chess engine version: usually the difference is 1 point
- Pedone 1.2 x64 seems to be stronger in tactics than older version (well-done to F. Gobbato)
- And just opposite, the older Ktulu 8 version performed better than Ktulu 9
- Plus the older TwistedLogic 20100131x x64 is almost equal in tactics to Hannibal 1.5, interesting...
- What a pity that Alarm 0.93.1's performance is too low than expected (tested twice too)
- And probably, I will continue testing the engines, which are mainly +2200 Elo and above...
* Due to many amateur engines (weaker than 2200 Elo) have serious bugs in Analyze mode
* If some +2200 Elo engines are missing in my current TTS ranking, then with a big possibility:
- Those ones have serious bugs in Analyze mode or simply they don't support Analyze mode
All Versions:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1956
Top 20:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=2015
*Note: As before, Top 20's standing remains as previous update !
Best,
Sedat
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 03-08-2015 00:03
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Dear Chess Friends,
Here is my latest TTS MP (1 Min/Move) competition:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=2081
You can view 'Comprehensive Output in Report file':
http://www.sedatc...s60sec.txt
More Details:
- The Top 5 Engines are tested as MP (using 6 cores per engine)
- 22 Unsolved position are used (not solved in 6 sec/move by the current MP engines)
- The current used tactical/strategic database is derived from 2100 positions
* The Top 5 MP engines managed to solve approx 99% of the positions (in 6 sec/move)
* My goal was to use more positions, but as we see: 2078 positions were solved
* Just imagine how much are strong the Top 5 engines in strategy and tactics
- And Houdini 4 is again the Winner - My Congratulations to Robert Houdart!
Best Regards,
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 05-08-2015 15:55
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Hello there,
I've just started to receive several book registrations for the current book tour
And I've noticed that some people dont give any info regarding:
- Name, Surname; Country
Another very important info is required :
- The registered user should specify with which engine will be tested his book
For example, the participants have choice to prefer: Stockfish or Komodo or Sugar
Btw, there is a possibility: SCCT V to be in LIVE (I will try via Piranha Tablet),
So I need to check some LIVE broadcasting sites, not sure which ones are good...
Any opinions ??
Best,
Sedat |
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 09-08-2015 17:50
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Hello Chess Friends,
Just I'd like to point out that today is the last day of the book registrations!
Tomorrow the event will be started...!!
To be honest I expected to see more participants...
So far the number of the registrations: just only 11 opening books
And it will be great if we will see more new incomers, plus the well-known SCCT participants !)
For examples:
Adriean Costinescu
Aleksandr Shvachko
Babban Singh
Bobby Casey
Clemens Keck
Dean Sprouse
Eduardo Koji
Eros Riccio
Giuseppe Petruccelli
Jeroen Noomen
Josias Mauricio
Nick Carlin
Marcos Alexandre
Marco Zerbinati
Marcos K. Matsuda
Maurice Chac
Munish Gupta
Nelson Hernandez
Nikolay Bartenev
Om Prakash
Pawel Sekowski
Randy Sands
Ruben Comes
Sunny
Servet Kultur
Tiago Alves
Tsvetan Milchev
Vasid Chouhan
Varun Gupta
Yuriy Gudzatoviy
Etc...
Sorry if anybody is not mentioned...but no time for all ...
Btw, of course...I can understand,
Now it is a summer time...plus, nowadays some of the top book makers are not active
I am not sure exactly why the interest is falling down...?!
*Is that can be one of the reasons that mostly of the games are ending as DRAW ?
*Or maybe the world crisis can be another serious reason...?
For example a few years ago, there was a queue to participate...)) I remember nearly 100 books per tour!
Ok...no problem...just I'd decided to share my thoughts...
And once more I wish to say: many thanks to all, for participating since many years!
Greetings,
Sedat
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| bort1964 |
Опубликовано 10-08-2015 22:50
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 11-08-2015 02:32
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Uvajayemiy Nikolay,
Obshcheye kolichestvo uchastnikov: 33
4 raundov, 128 igriy na igroka, obshcheye kolichestvo igr: 2112
Turnir knig ojidaetsia zavershena v techeniye 4-5 dney
Zavtra ya planiruyu opublikovat pervyye rezultatiy
Eshe raz  za tvoi interes i uchastiye...
Udachi,
Sedat |
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| Sedat Canbaz |
Опубликовано 11-08-2015 13:36
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Update - 11.08.2015
SCCT Book Championship V - Standings after 511 games:
http://www.sedatc...ge_id=1900
More Details:
- The Current Leader: Panda fan cool - Congrats to Eros Riccio (Italy) !
* It's too early for any estimations, but Panda can be the new Champion
- K901 = Komodo 9.01 x64 / MZ = SugaR 5.4b x64 / SF = Stockfish 060815
- 13 books play with Stockfish, 10 books with Komodo, 10 books with SugaR
- Due to no much free time, I plan to publish the games after the end of tour
Have fun and good luck to all participants !
Best,
Sedat |
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